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made what sounded like concession on his wall. the big beautiful concrete wall over and over again while running for president. listen. >> the plan includes 5.7 billion for a strategic deployment of physical barriers, or a wall. this is not a 2,000 mile concrete structure from sea to sea. these are steel barriers in high priority locations. >> unfortunately, we are no closer to a deal because even before the president went before the cameras, democrats had rejected his proposal calling it a nonstarter. so this latest back and forth dashes the hopes of 800,000 workers desperate for a break-throu break-through. what exactly democrats rejecting? walk us through trump's
proposal. >> well, president trump rolling out tonight what he describes as an attempt to break the log jam that has allowed this government shutdown to stretch nearly a month now. this would get him $5.7 billion in funding for his border wall as well as funding for other border security priorities. like more border patrol agents, more immigration judges, more detention space at the border. in exchange, he said he would agree to a one-time, three-year renewal of those daca protections for the young undocumented immigrants known as dreamers. he said he would agree to a three-year extension of temporary protected status for those 300,000 immigrants who are covered under that status now but who are facing the status expiring. of course the white house is defending this proposal against criticism from both sides of the aisle. responding to charges from the
right. right now a pathway to citizenship is not on the table. that this would be a one-time renewal of these protections from deportations from this population. it would not be am necessary city and acknowledging the president has in the past said he would not support this kind of daca for wall trade. pence said that he came around after hearing from rank and file members on both sides of the aisle. the white house is hoping to move quickly on this as soon as next week. it is not yet clear that could it clear the gop controlled senate, let alone the democratic controlled house. >> all right. now let's bring in ryan who has been following reaction from democrats. and they're pretty much rejecting this proposal. right, ryan? >> yes. it seem pretty clear that democrats are not interested in this proposal.
the primary reason being they weren't involved in these negotiations. chuck schumer and nancy pelosi didn't have any idea what would come out until it came out saturday morning. this is what nancy pelosi had to say. unfortunately initial reports make it clear that his proposal is a compilation of several previously rejected initiatives, each of which is unacceptable and in total, do not represent a good-faith effort to restore certainty to people's lives. it is unlikely that any of these provisions alone would pass the house and taken together, they are a nonstarter. it is the second end of their beef the president's proposal. at one point, democrats put on the table $25 billion for a pathway to citizenship. a permanent solution to the dreamers. that's not what this entails. the president is talking about
the bridge act proposed by dick durbin of illinois. it was a bipartisan solution. when democrats were in the minority and the house. it would still give them some level of uncertainty. even though the president is only asking for about $6 billion this time, they are not interested in a permanent wall on the southern border. republicans on the other hand seem pretty bullish about this. they view it as the president getting back on offense. now putting the ball in nancy pelosi and chuck schumer's court. this bill could come up as soon as next week and they will force democrats to take a vote on it as opposed to trying to fight it from the side lines.
>> i spoke with democratic congresswoman shortly after the president's speech. and she said some are measures they've previously supported but she said she'll only negotiate after the president reopens the government. i asked about several measures the house is expected to vote on next week. listen closely. this is similar to what the president is asking for. >> one of the proposals is something we've been urging for for a long time. and frankly, president obama didn't do what we wished which is to increase the number of immigration judges dramatically. we need upgrades at the points of entry. almost all the drugs coming over the land borders come through entry. they come on trucks and we don't have the latest technology to
detect those or other material that could do us harm. i'm going on bring in the political analyst, ron, and chief political correspondent, ryan. what do you think of the democrats rejecting this offer before they even heard it? it includes much of what they say they want and it doesn't really include the wall. instead, he's saying barriers that trump has long promised. at least not by definition. >> i don't think for reasons i'll explain that this is a serious path. i think it can set in motion a series of conversation that's could force democrats to answer, what if anything they will accept in return? this is not serious. this is hostage taking squared. it was the president who ended the daca protection. it was the president who ended the temporary status pro zpeks the please shut down the
government. now he is saying if i stop doing the things that i did. if i let go of the hostages i've taken, if you give never money for something that 60% of the country opposes, the reasons it is a nonstarter should be obvious. but i am struck that there have been a number voices on the left who say, if we're talking about a permanent status for the dreamers, a permanent status for the other immigrants from central america under temporary protection, that may be something we can talk about. as you mentioned, last year all but three democratic senators were willing to trade the wall for a broad path way, for a large population. and it was the president who killed it because he also in contrast to what started his speech today. this i don't think necessarily is something the democrats could feel much pressure to accept. but it does force them to answer.
are they still willing to make the deal that most democratic senators were willing to make a year ago? >> i wonder if this is a proposal the president's own base will accept. ann coulter as you know was one of the people in president trump's ear telling him to reject the original offer. here's what she thinks of the new proposal. trump proposes amnesty. we voted for trump and got jeb. she goes on, 100 miles of wall. maybe we can finally get a full border wall. do you think the president is now second-guessing himself right now? >> he does pay attention to voices like that so it is not insignificant to bring it up. she has her facts wrong. there is not amnesty in here. that's probably the biggest problem from the democratic perspective. there is no path to citizenship. a lot of the points call amnesty. so it is not quite right.
look. not to agree too much with ron. the starting point here is whether negotiating as complicated an issue as immigration policy, which has vexed three presidents in a row, putting together security for republicans and some path way to citizenship basket for democrats, if shutting down the government and having hundreds of thousands of government workers not being paid, and many of them being forced to work. if that under any circumstances is ever a way to have a big legislative debate, and of course, it is not. i think the starting point is we don't negotiate legislation under these conditions. right? i don't think it matters what trump proposed today. they view this as hostage
taking. some new hostages were thrown in today. these daca recipients whose lives were upended due to trump, and now he is saying, i'll take that back. well, it is a nonstarter for the democrats for those reasons. >> is this the president blinking? given that he does have ann coulter criticizing his plan and other conservative media outlets. he is not giving them with a they initially wanted. sf first, don't forget supreme court is not taking up the her on court ruling which has prevented the president from ending daca. so they're protected. they have protection for an extended period. probably another year anyway. regardless of what he is offering. >> the biggest thing is, is
there anything the democrats can accept in return for a wall? or is it such a toxic symbol of validation of president trump's immigration policy in specific, and more broadly, his attitude toward changes. if there's something the democrats can accept, it will be at the least, some guarantee for a very substantial population. and then that puts the ball back in the other court. as you're saying, if the president is getting attacked over a three-year extension of daugavins, is ann coulter suggesting the president ought to be rounding up and deporting daca recipients? it would be a good way to get under 35% which is where he's skating to now in his approval rating. if this is unacceptable to them, the idea of a citizenship solution, it will be more unacceptable. you're kind of back to this
stalemate and to the point ryan makes. how can you hold all these critical services hostage to a stalemate that has been going on since 2006? >> and that the s one thing we did not hear in his speech today. any empathy. some having to go to food banks just to eat. >> absolutely. >> this sets a really, really bad precedent to use the not funding the government to try to get concessions from your political points. if this works, what is to stop the next president? maybe it will be a democrat from doing the same exact thing. trying to get medicare for all. that's why i'm slightly surprised by how many republicans are going along with trump leading them down this path. the last shutdown fight, i'll never forget.
devin nunes called republican who's used the shutdown to try on extract concessions from obama. he called them lemmings with suicide vests on. now the lemming is the president of the united states and his entire party is following him off that cliff. we can get a look at what it might look like with democrats controlling the house, trump in the white house. but i think the bottom line is letting a president use the threat of a shutdown to get what he wants is a very, very dangerous press denial. and my opinion is that the democrats right to resist that. it is bad to do that. >> it seems to be that's the prip reason the democrats aren't willing to budge. according to what i've been
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students and african-american young men preaching about the bible and oppression. he said he immediately sensed danger. >> when i was there, and i was standing there, and i seen that group of people in front of me and the angry faces, and all of that, i realized i had put myself in a really dangerous situation. you know? here's a group of people who were angry at somebody else and i put myself in front of that, and all of a sudden, i'm the one who is all that anger and all of that wanting to have the freedom to just rip me apart. you know? that was scary. i'm a vietnam times veteran. and i know that mentality of there's enough of us. we can do this. >> then phillips describes the
tense moments now being replayed over and over again online when a young man got right in his face. watch. >> when i started going forward, and the massive group of people started separating and separating and moving aside to allow me to move out of the way, to proceed, this young fellow put himself in front of me and he wouldn't move. if i took another step, i would be putting myself into his space and i would have touched him. that would have been the thing the group of people needed to spring on me. >> sarah asked him what bothered them most about friday's confrontation? here are his thoughts. >> fear.
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sources tell cnn, the face of the old guard, joe biden, is getting ready to decide where to make a run. many point to a consensus that he is likely to launch a bid. one said his thinking is really centered around one thought. that there needs to be a new president. jim messina was president obama's aide in 2012 and served. good to have you with us. do you think biden is the only one who can beat trump? >> no, i don't. i think we have the largest field we've seen in presidential history. i've met with 30 candidates who are at least considering a bid. i think you will see more than 15 actually file and run. i think that broad a field is really, really healthy and will allow to us come out with a nominee who is battle tested. >> do you have the top three you
think are the strongest? >> i think today, i hate public polling. i think you have to no he away here. democrats win presidential elections when we have a compelling vision for where we want to take this country. in 2016 donald trump won a very close election because swing voters viewed him as better on the economy. so we have to seize the reins on the economic argument. the problem is donald trump himself, right? the easiest thing to do in a democratic primary is wail away on president trump and who he is. it doesn't answer the question of where you want to take country. i think a big primary like the will allow some new voices to be seen throughout and to have this compelling vision and i think the party will be much stronger. people forget that in 2008, barack obama had to campaign in all 50 states before he finally beat hillary clinton. and we came out of. primary absolutely ready to beat
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donald trump. what they say every week is show me who will fight for me and my family and make the economy better. and that's what democrats have just got to stay laser focused on. i think he will run on that kind of platform and i think you're seeing a lot of new voices to your point who aren't nationally known figures who have real shots at winning this nomination. >> you talk about where is the identity of the democratic party? where is it headed? where is the poll? some are calling it the colbert primary. because people are announcing on his show. i want to you listen to the latest. >> do you have anything would you like to announce? >> yes. >> what would that be, madam? >> i'm filing an exploratory committee for president of the united states tonight. i'm going to run for president
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my high of time who won. carter, clinton and obama did that and were abled the both. in 2016, hillary clinton wasn't able to do the swing voter thing. so whoever comes out of this primary has to be able to excite their base, which donald trump will do for his base, and talk to the swing voters who narrowly defeated our candidate in 2016. >> good to have you. thank you for being here. russian hackers set their sights on the democratic national committee again. this time in the last days after last november's mid-term elections. that's according to a democratic official who says hackers tried to trick people into clicking on an e-mail that would have let them into their computer systems. it is what cyber security types call a spear phishing attack. so explain how this went down. what was the gimmick? >> yes before the two weeks after the mid-term elections in
november, dozens of dnc staffers and people with dnc e-mail addresses received an e-mail address that purportedly posed as a state department official. that included a pdf attachment. if people would have clicked on it, it would have given access to the computer and all the internal systems that were tied to the computers. >> obviously, this was after the election. so that's interesting. do we know what they were trying on learn? >> not precisely. i was told by someone who was familiar with the hack, of the dozens of e-mail addresses that were targeted, they targeted all sections of the organization. so very senior officials, medium level to low level. we know that it was not the only
one targeted. there were defense contractors, some think tanks in d.c. we don't know the other organizations. only other than the dnc targeted. it seemed that it was a sort of broad targeting and i guess really truly a phishing exercise to see what they could get. >> did they get in? >> we're told by the dnc that there's no evidence that the hackers did get in. that anything was accessed. we were told that the russians were all over the democratic systems. they were in jon podesta's inbox, too. we're told by folks that they don't believe they were hacked successfully on this occasion. we're not quite sure what the officials at the dnc had the wherewithal to not click on the link or whether they might have clicked on it but then maybe the anti-virus or security software kicked in. we're not sure.
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oval office on friday. we do know that after the summit in june, they signed a vaguely worded statement and both sides walked away perhaps thinking the other had agreed to something they didn't. kim jong-un may have thought the u.s. is ready to start lifting sanctions right away and president trump may have thought the north koreans were ready to give up their nukes. did he threat the nuclear threat from north korea was over and yet u.s. intelligence has indicated that they are expanding the missile bases. the pentagon put out that they are a threat to the u.s. so clearly the threat is not over. are this have the two sides getting together and finding a path forward after stalled denuclearization talks? the key issue is the sanctions and the time line. the north koreans say they need to build confidence with the u.s. first before they get rid of the arsenal that has given them leverage and protection. they think that the u.s. providing some economic relief
in and challenge for small steps along the way would go a long way toward building that confidence. of course, the u.s. has said they're not giving up any economic relief until north korea gets rid of all of its nuke weapons. that has really ground talks to a halt. are they closer to a compromise? we know there are talks in sweden, negotiations between the u.s. and north korea. could those talks be hammering out the details of pre conditions ahead of the summit? it could lead to an actual substantive agreement with step that's could be taken. in terms of where the summit might happen, there have been several locations. my sources are telling me, the most likely place is vietnam. and there are a few reasons of it is an easy trip for kim jong-un to make. vietnam glass relations with north korea and the u.s. and it is a country that fought a war with the united states, and recovered. and as kim jong-un takes steps
to grow his own economy. there are a lot of thing to be sorted out. will it lead to results? that's the big question. >> all right, thank you. a gas pipeline explodes. it has killed at least 73 people in central mexico. this happened about 80 miles north of mexico city. officials say at least 76 others were injured. most of them seriously with the pipe ruptured, killing a massive fire. the fire is out but people leaving in that immediate vicinity have been told to leave. and they said officially the cause of the blast was people illegally tapping into the pipeline. just ahead, we go to the front lines of a war that is not over in syria. >> reporter: you can see this town has been completely obliterated. to many of the people who were
living in areas like this, and others, this is what liberation looks like. miles and miles of rubble. >> why the end of isis dominance may bring the return of a familiar problem. next. you're live in the cnn newsroom. . and every time we move, things change. apartments become houses, cars become mini vans. as we upgrade and downsize, an allstate agent will do the same for our protection. now that you know the truth, are you in good hands?
president trump attending their return today at dover air force base in delaware. these are those four americans killed. a total of 14 people died in that suicide bombing that analysts believe was carried out by isis. the u.s. backed syrian democratic forces say they'll our chief international correspondent clarissa ward is in syria and says isis is losing ground there but not without giving up a fight. >> reporter: ana, even the journey to get anywhere near the front lines gives a sort of reality check. if you want to travel past the town of shahdadi, which is still a good four hours from the front lines, you need to have a military escort. and there were entire towns that our military escorts did not even want to go through. take a look. the battle against isis is still raging. as the u.s. allied syrian
democratic forces known as the sdf push in on the last sliver of territory under the militants' control. here are the fighters prepared to move into the village of shafa. flares turned the dark night into day. coalition aircraft circled overhead, providing crushing air power. by daylight they push further in. this is where isis ends, sdf commander shimko shakaki tells his men. moments later panic breaks out. isis has launched a counterattack. the sdf fire back, and shafa is quickly liberated. we travel down to the front line as they approach the next village. our escorts insist on taking an armored vehicle. even liberated territory is far
from secure. these roads are still dangerous. especially early in the morning. because there are isis sleeper cells in the area. they come out overnight and they plant roadside bombs. we stop at a house that the sdf took from isis just days earlier. mortars are fired off at militant positions. commander shakaki takes us up onto the roof to show us the front line. so the next village over, susa, is where the front line is now, and they're hoping that they'll be able to liberate that by tomorrow. american forces provide assistance from just a few hundred yards away. the commander warns the battle is not over. "the pressure we had militarily is ending," he says. "but the fundamental war is eradicating the ideology of
isis." that will be a much tougher fight to win. support for isis still lingers here. on the way back we pass through another recently liberated area. this is what is left now of the town of hajin. you can see it's basically been completely obliterated. and to many of the people who were living in areas like this and others this is what liberation looks like. miles and miles of rubble. many here fear that buried in the destruction the seeds are being sown for another war. that kurdish commander told us there were u.s. positions spotted all around the house that they took control of. they were providing assistance with observation, with spotting, firing off mortars. also technical supplies. and as we were leaving, we actually saw a large u.s. military convoy heading down to the front lines, giving you the
sense that even as u.s. troops withdraw, ana, they are still a fundamental part of the fight on the front lines. >> clarissa ward with that exclusive reporting from syria. thank you. now, if you ever needed a reason to look before you jump in the water, here it is. what may be the largest great white shark on the planet spotted swimming with divers off the coast of hawaii.
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